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ectos taste nasty · Feb 10, 2008, 12:55 AM // 00:55

Or is it considered bad because of the cracked armor?

-Thanks

EDIT : Yeah,I mean aggressive refrain.

bk359 · Feb 10, 2008, 12:56 AM // 00:56

by AR you mean aggressive refrain? And if so yes, its used on a lot of para bars in PvP. I don't know about PvE.

Lishy · Feb 10, 2008, 01:03 AM // 01:03

Yes.
Most(*cough* *cough*) paragons use a shield which gives them 16 armor.This means you will only have -4 off of your armor if you pretend your not wielding a shield.Either way, paragons have 80 base armor, and are ranged.AI also does not target paragons much.
Yes, people use it still.

Div · Feb 10, 2008, 01:07 AM // 01:07

Why wouldn't you use it? In PvE it doesn't matter since monsters don't really attack you, so cracked armor is fine. In PvP it's also a must have.

Bohya · Feb 10, 2008, 01:10 AM // 01:10

I use it on my para in PvE for quicker adrenal gain. I usualy have WatchYourself on my skillbar so it cancels out the -4 armour.

More Adrenalin = More spamming of Watch Youself

Arkantos · Feb 10, 2008, 01:11 AM // 01:11

Aggressive Refrain is still the best IAS for paragons, PvE and PvP.

ectos taste nasty · Feb 10, 2008, 02:07 AM // 02:07

Alright,cool. Thanks guys

Axel Zinfandel · Feb 11, 2008, 02:08 AM // 02:08

Even so, Cracked armor is not a problem at all. If you have a decent hero with condition management it won't be much a problem even if you get targeted.

For instance, I have a MM using Infuse Conditions and Draw Conditions. Plague signet and draw conditions can be use without going MM, to send all the conditions back at them.

So, no, it's not a problem. and if you work your team a bit, it can even be useful.

angmar_nite · Feb 11, 2008, 02:47 AM // 02:47

The only problem I have, is if it gets reapplied so often, won't it just waste the hero's energy with him constantly removing it?

John Panda · Feb 11, 2008, 02:50 AM // 02:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arkantos

Aggressive Refrain is still the best IAS for paragons, PvE and PvP.

agreed.

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Axel Zinfandel · Feb 11, 2008, 05:11 AM // 05:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by angmar_nite

The only problem I have, is if it gets reapplied so often, won't it just waste the hero's energy with him constantly removing it?

Not with decent energy management. I find that My hero doesn't spam it nearly as much in battle, as (being an MM) he has more important things to do. And it's all the way to the right on his bar. He seems to only use it when I am targeted, which is Ideal.

I find Channeling does the trick for nearly any monk taking care of conditions (RC Prot) I just run a hybrid and give him Healing Whisper to get the most out of it. I rarely even do that though.

cellardweller · Feb 11, 2008, 09:22 AM // 09:22

The only time I find it an issue is with the Factions Blessed Light monks. Dropping a 10e spell on me every few seconds taps their energy somewhat, but even that is mitigatable via purifying finale at the expense of a skill slot.

Pyro maniac · Feb 11, 2008, 05:16 PM // 17:16

Tend to use Mend Condition, which gives a decent heal as well =)

Tyla · Feb 11, 2008, 07:05 PM // 19:05

....Yes....
*copies what arkantos said*

Racthoh · Feb 11, 2008, 07:36 PM // 19:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by cellardweller

The only time I find it an issue is with the Factions Blessed Light monks. Dropping a 10e spell on me every few seconds taps their energy somewhat, but even that is mitigatable via purifying finale at the expense of a skill slot.

That was the only issue I've had thus far with the change. Eventually while vanquishing I just brought along the protection and spirit henchmen over the healer.